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if anyone cares, I had to install a new lmc in cab gas tank in the 67. I used my old sender with a new cork gasket and new float. worked fine but the float always hit the side of the tank constantly and it always seeped gas around the sender. decided to buy a new sender from lmc and no more float noise. it also came complete with a rubber gasket and float and it should seal better than the cork. maybe the new lmc tank don't like the ford sender or it may be worn out. I have seen other threads on the float banging the side of the tank so just passing this along.....
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Good-day!
LMC's fuel tanks are of a lesser quality both in dimension and application than the Dennis Carpenter variant. For the in-cab tank LMC Doesn't differentiate between the '71 and later type vs. '70 and earlier tanks. So they make the flange a one size fits all type. Not sure if that has anything to do with the problem you faced, but thought I'd mention it for others benefit.

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Joseph you could not be more wrong. I just bought a tank from LMC for my 71 and it fit perfectly as it was exactly like the original. It was not a universal type or like the earlier versions either. It is the emission type with the extra fittings and nipples on top for the charcoal canister. I have also bought new tanks from LMC for the earlier non-emission type and they fit perfectly as well. I have read that a place in California makes the tanks for all the suppliers anyway so whether you buy one from D.C. or LMC or others, it is the same tank.
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That's A Joke made in this country, WRONG All those tanks made overseas out of scrap cars no matter who you buy them from Think about any real steel parts for old cars are more expensive , if they made it in this country I would think it would be at least 400-500.00 and nobody would buy it ++ also when you see it come in real crummy box/tawain box means only one thing, all made by the same company over there
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Save yourself a lot of trouble and get a new one from Dennis Carpenter. Part# D0TZ-9002-A .. $249.50. The inside of the original steel line is probably contaminated also. Just by-pass it with a rubber line.
OP lives in SoCal, so he would be better off buying it from the local source that reproduces it, instead of from Carpenter in NC

Blue Oval Truck Parts in Anaheim is the source, they sell it to the other repro parts sellers and the general public.

Shipping will be cheaper, or the OP could go there and buy it in person. Blue Oval is located in an industrial park in NE Anaheim, just south of the 91 freeway.

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There is at least 5 different companies under 1 person that owns or is in there back pocket when it comes to these parts here is a sample of 3 of them and it is whatever name they want to put on the truck when it leaves Calif. to come to the East Coast or whatever show they are going to then +++ @ that does not sell to the public and the owner knows only the Tawain Way and years ago showed some other companies on how to get real rich on selling Tawain Parts,, here examples 67/72 turn signal switches are .05-.10 each in Tawain, look on how many on a ship, sell 25 to 40 each,, I can buy floor pans as low as 9.75 each and look at what they are buy the ones selling Tawain Junk Metal and that's just a little, still have to get some parts since that is only source BUT at least we refuse to carry Tawain Sheet Metal or their gas tanks

This is just a couple of same the same = Counter Parts < alias > Truck Shop <alias> Blue Oval < alias >
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I am well aware that DC / others share production facilities and parts. However I stand by my original statement comparing the fit and applicability of the LMC vs DC in-cab fuel tanks. I've installed both in the recent weeks.

Here's a few photos of the DC unit they sell for '61-'70. Notice the correct (3) mounting holes at top with brackets for fitment. (pre-'70!) I'd challenge busboy to show photos of his universal type LMC tank installed in a 70 and earlier pickup, and we can compare.

Furthermore the anodized finish on the DC unit is much different than the silver coating on the LMC tank.

Lastly the sheet-metal thickness is greater on the DC tank, and the overall unit is heavier with what appear to be better crimps and welds.

This is just my observation after having just installed both units, and also having just installed OEM pre '71, and '71 and later tanks. I've also put in dozens of fuel tank sending units, including some from both companies, as well as OEM. The DC unit is my go-to now, works every time, it includes the float, gasket and screws. (LMC you have to order each of those for additional $$)

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so many factors can be thought of,, when where the tanks made and did they make any adjustments during productions, we had a new one on hand and took 4 years to sell so I would imagine they changed that's why we will not buy anymore since we always good clean ones on hand,, also remember there is no loyal people over in Tawain/China,, have seen personally they will backstab anybody when making parts, one example few years back new fenders for a 53/56 trucks where introduced as a sample, company put up everything they had 2 mortgage etc. and almost lost everything due to the fact 4 other companies had them over here in the country before they which in return they where almost left out in the cold and hard to sell due to backstabbing, we have been approached several times about making parts and I run them off.. 61/66 vent frames when 1 company has to buy 5 sets from us to send to Tawain to get it right and still not right.. think about they do not have trucks sitting over there to test for fit ??????? and cannot make a exact part due to say Ford can get a lawsuit on them and they are not going to pay Ford for 100% exact fit,, last example 67/72 front fenders where in gray primer and where stopped several years ago due to they where exact fit and might have been run off the Original Tools in South America in which you would be surprised how many parts where made down in South America for Ford dating back to the early 50's
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1956 Big Window
1964 F-750 Flat Bed
1965 M-100 Mercury
1966 M-350 Mercury
1966 F350 Wrecker
1972 F-350 Crew Cab
1997 F-450 7.3 with 85,000 original miles
2006 F-150 Crew Cab
2008 F-650 Crew Cab Roll Back 6.7 Cummins
2020 Flat Top Peterbilt Roll Back PX-7 Engine
and 2 cars 1968 XLT and 2017 Mustang
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my lmc sender came with a float and rubber gasket, no screws tho
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